The Podcasts That Model How to Think

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Podcasts can be a window into the way hosts think — each recorded conversation offering an insight into the engine of their mind. Some hosts may be eloquent, but their views often seem driven more by impulse than by a well-reasoned internal logic. While such podcasters clearly have their audience, I find myself drawn to those who approach life with a more structured, deliberate way of thinking. Over time, you come to appreciate the lens through which hosts interpret events and ideas. If their values are consistent and their principles robust, you may even be able to roughly predict their perspective on any given issue before pressing play.

In today’s blog, I want to highlight some of the podcasters I admire who exemplify this methodical approach to understanding the world.


Risky Business — Maria Konnikova & Nate Silver

Hosted by psychologist and author Maria Konnikova alongside election forecaster Nate SilverRisky Business is a weekly podcast about making better decisions. In many ways, the podcast shouldn’t be for me. As a British listener, their discussions of U.S. politics have limited relevance. I have no interest in poker, nor could I care less about American football or the NBA. At a guess, I’d estimate these topics make up a good 65% of their conversations. Yet in spite of this, I still find myself listening to new episodes most Thursdays.

Regularly tuning in (alongside reading Silver’s 2024 book On the Edge) has introduced me to an entirely new lexicon for understanding decision-making. They examine choices through the lens of expected value — or “EV.” Put simply, it’s a framework that encourages thinking probabilistically: weighing potential outcomes by both their likelihood and their impact. They also highlight the many cognitive biases that skew human judgement, from the gambler’s fallacy to the availability heuristic.

In some sense, it doesn’t matter what topic they choose to discuss. The value of the conversation isn’t in Nate’s basketball takes or Maria’s poker tournament highlights, but in the considered, methodological thinking they apply to each topic. Listening to Risky Business has definitely equipped me with a mental framework to make better, more considered choices in my own life.


Ian Dunt — Origin Story

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Another podcaster with a consistently reasoned and intellectually coherent worldview is Ian Dunt, host of Origin Storyand a regular voice on Late Night Live with David Marr. Dunt self-identifies as a “liberal extremist” and views almost everything through the lens of the individual. He champions liberty, reason, and pluralism, while criticising any person or institution that flattens the individual by assuming a clear-cut group identity.

He operates from first principles when formulating his political commentary. His arguments are rarely reactive, but instead the product of a coherent worldview applied rigorously across issues. Unlike many political pundits, he is uncompromising in applying his ethical framework — even when the majority of his audience disagrees with him (for instance, on issues like a vaping ban or reforming Westminster’s electoral system).

In a media environment that too often rewards outrage and partisanship, Dunt’s intellectual integrity makes his podcasts a must-listen.


The Rest Is Politics — Rory Stewart & Alastair Campbell

I’d be remiss not to mention The Rest Is Politics. Guided by their mantra of “disagreeing agreeably,” Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell approach political debate with respect, wit, and a genuine desire to understand. Though they come from opposing ideological backgrounds, they manage to offer a reasonably objective appraisal of events in Westminster and beyond.

While guests are no doubt drawn to the podcast for its vast audience, the guarantee of a fair hearing — born of the hosts’ good faith — is surely one of its biggest appeals. It’s a show that demonstrates how two people with opposing worldviews can still engage with curiosity and mutual respect.


A Muslim & A Jew Go There — Sayeeda Warsi & David Baddiel

In a parallel spirit, A Muslim & A Jew Go There sees Baroness Sayeeda Warsi and David Baddiel tread into often tense territory with sincerity and integrity. They dig into issues like antisemitism, Islamophobia, racism hierarchies, and the fraught politics of the Middle East — with humour where possible and nuance where necessary.

What sets their conversations apart is the hosts’ willingness to confront disagreement within a shared recognition of complexity. This isn’t manufactured conflict; it’s earnest human dialogue — often funny, but heartfelt — and refreshingly civil, even when the topic matters most.

Though both The Rest Is Politics and A Muslim & A Jew Go There benefit from their hosts’ platforms, their real value lies in a shared ethic of respect. Whether navigating political storms or personal identities, these podcasters steer conversations with purpose, principle, and a belief in the power of reasoned disagreement.


Closing thoughts

Across all these shows, what unites the hosts is not agreement, but a shared belief that good thinking — like good conversation — requires patience, humility, and consistency. In an age that too often rewards speed, certainty, and outrage, these podcasts remind us that reasoning aloud can be a public service. They’re not just media; they’re models for how to listen, question, and understand in a world that often forgets how.

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